As opposed to Giilgamesh/Archer, who could do 16 (see Fate/Zero Act 4). Second reason, Archer was still recovering from Saber. - Wallpaper Abyss ... Archer Artoria Pendragon Assassin Berserker Berserker Caster Cu Chulainn Fate Fate/Stay Night Gilgamesh … The reason Shirou was able to beat Gilgamesh is that he is able to copy swords faster than Gilgamesh can bring them out of Gate of Babylon inside UBW. Report rule breaking and leave rule enforcement to the mods. Click to expand... Gae Bolg for the win. Berseker is far better with a blade, has better stats, and each nobel phantasm that Archer creates becomes Berserker's. I don't want this post to get into extremely long arguments and I was very sleepy. Messages: 470 Likes Received: 3 Trophy Points: 0 Joined: May 3, 2012. first senario: archer has sniping range and lancelot is in military base If archer decided to rain down weapons it would turn out similar to the, Berserker is agile enough that he could avoid the bow shots. Archer Assassin Berserker Caster Fate Fate/Zero Lancer Rider Saber 1920x1263 Anime Fate/Grand Order RyuZU² Welcome to the forums! Don't really need a respect thread since i have been debating vs battles for close to five years now and Type Moon is pretty much my forte, i know every Stay Night and Zero Servant in and out. Why Shirou is able to defeat Gilgamesh is because of their bad compatibility, not because he has surpassed Saber! If needed I can even quote them word by word here. You forget the broken phantasms Archer can shoot. He is one of the Servants of Ritsuka Fujimaru of the Grand Orders conflicts of Fate/Grand Order. Berserker is very easily on the same level as Saber, if not more so, since she only beat him on a technicality and would have died if not for it. To submit a battle, click the Goku vs Superman (or Doom vs Vader) button above. How far do they get? No need to praise my name. Kiritsugu Emiya, a freelancer notoriously known as the "Magus Killer" works together with the Einzbern family to summon the stronge… Download for free on all your devices - Computer, Smartphone, or Tablet. Users may not make more than 5 Posts per day. Archer loses to Berserker for in Fate for several reasons. [–]Gutzahn 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children). He creates another new dimension, which this time causes a multiple set of realities merging together into one. The issue is she cannot reach Archer while protecting Shirou (Hrunting was aiming at both), mean while Archer take advantage of Hrunting harassing her to pump out more Hrunting with even more power (5 were used AFAIR) and eventually exhausted her. Didn't work. Archer is forced by his Master to retreat, but Kariya, unable to control his Servant any longer, is unable to order Berserker to do the same. share. No hostilities here: the vs Berserker fight was on day 11. Even if he did, so what? Fate/Zero Episodes 14-15. by Theron Martin, Jul 20th 2020. The Akatsuki (naruto) are tasked with hunting down Legendary Pokemons instead of Jinchuriki's. Archer doesn't use it to beat Heracles. Be nice and we'll respond in kind. Shirou is Shirou. None of the servants in F/Z is possible to be beat by the humans of F/SN(not even Gilgamesh!) Technically speaking, he never actually showed anything to suggest that, but either way. Berseker is far better with a blade, has better stats, and each nobel phantasm that Archer creates becomes Berserker's. Saber vs. Berserker, Archer vs. Rider, another hero will fall and a secret will be revealed. Now the far more important point here to make. Archer sword rain, is literally irrelevant here. No one expects you to be a genius when it comes to every aspect of every character. If he tries to catch or block the other blades hit him or Archer cuts him down. Kayneth El-Melloi Archibald, I googled it so no worries there. Messages: 470 Likes Received: 3 Trophy Points: 0 Joined: May 3, 2012. first senario: archer … Not really, (given that you pointed out from where the information was and as i said the information isn't even relevant here). Furthermore, the two BP i'm talking about, Caladbolg and Hrunting both kinda ignore that. He's not doing anything about that. Crane Wings or any broken phantasm ends him there is no way around that. This proves that Lancelot is capable of handling a sword rain of at least 16, and if Tohsaka didn't stop him, he was about to do 32+. It looks stunning, especially in UBW, so I'm not complaining. Honestly don't remember the statements on either Archer's wound or the number of swords. Who will win: the Freelancer, or the knight? I've decided to put it into bullet form since I'm no good at reading long paragraphs. His true name is Lancelot, the Knight of the Lake, who caused the downfall of King Arthurdue to his affair with Guinevere. Be nice. Archer compatibility with F/Z Berserker is rather bad, since the latter one can turn EMIYA's projections against him. That aside, i just gave you examples above. [–]Lies_ALWAYS_Lies 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (6 children). Unfortunately for Archer his trump card directly benefits Berserker due to Lancelot being able to master any weapon. Hrunting is so fast that Saber needs a boost from a command spell to deal with it and it also homes on the target and just keeps coming back. The weapon automatically move according to it's memory of being used (Kanshou and Byakuya was parrying Kuzuki while Shirou was unable to tell what was happening) when it come to regular fights. But in a realistic setting where neither character is fooling around it's hardly the perfect counter. As a result, Berserker turns his attention to the injured Saber, but is stalled by Lancer's interference. Yes, Shirou managed to win that particular encounter because tracing and UBW give him weapons faster than Gil can pull them out. Heracles easily being a match for Saber. [–]meso26 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (2 children), [–]Fehafare 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago* (1 child). Along the way, Jedah encounters the 13th Dead Apostle, Night of Wallachia who is intrigued with Jedah's actions and decides to join him in creating a salvation for all. Yeah, that's pretty much game over for Archer. Weapon history does not grant real mastery, but rather. First reason, it's Berserker, one of the most powerful Servants. He has a obsession with Saber during both stories. Every fight simply boils down to whoever is faster and stronger, oh yeah and WILLPOWER---fuck that shit. And heck, Shirou with just a fraction of Archer's power took on Berserker Alter and Saber Alter and won both of those fights. If asked, you must provide evidence for your claims or drop the argument. In the first confrontation between the Servants, Berserker suddenly arrived and was engaged by Archer. On broken phantasm? Distasteful posts for the sake of being "edgy". Posts with no details or specifications whatsoever. He later forms a new contract with Kirei Kotomine that lasts ten years later into the time of the Fifth Holy Grail War of Fate/Stay Night. If he doesn't do anything, the swords cut him down. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: Find a flair you like, click it, and send the message it brings you to exactly as-is. As b… "Your Favorite/Least Favorite" character threads are not allowed due to lack of discussion these types of threads generate. If you're going to repost try to broaden or change the discussion to keep it fresh. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. And once you're close he's done for. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he can volunterily erase the swords from exsistance unlike Gil. Overly broad, vague or opinion-reliant posts. ), [–]upads 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children). "I am the alienated, the ridiculed, the despised. Even in UBW Shirou would lose if Gilgamesh stuck with armor and spamming weapons at him. He is the servant of Kariya Matou in the Fourth Holy Grail War and serves as Saber's most personal enemy during that war, due to his true identity and the fact that his one goal is to take revenge on her. Big ones. All he would have to do is grab a weapon or two and win throught superior stats. [–]Jakkubus 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children). Explicit permission, from the aforementioned creator, is required to utilize or alter the content found on this page. He's got plot protection. High quality Berserker gifts and merchandise. Remember fights are not determined at ranks alone, compatibility is also important. Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 Next > PakiSama. Only what is strictly necessary to use the weapon and perform the move though (so thing like Endurance, Luck, Prana, etc are not copied). Close. Take a second to look at our. [–]meso26 17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (13 children). Apologies go a long way if you mess up. Third reason, UBW takes a lot of mana to sustain, like, A LOT. That's his name! While Archer seemingly has infinite Noble Phantasm copies, each copies are one rank down from the original. All posts must be flaired. Saber has the speed to deal with Hrunting as she was parrying it repeatedly. So Archer using Gae Bolg vs Berserker using Gae Bolg in a regular spear fight is most likely Berserker's advantage due to superior stat still. That's not how he defeated Heracles either, since it wouldn't work on him. Two swordsmen broken mentally, out to fix themselves and others in whatever way possible, even going to … Your post will get automatically removed if it is not flaired. Also taking Heracles lives is irrevelant here, since it only shows, that Archer has equivalent of 6 A rank Noble Phantasms in UBW. Even if Berserker dodged he would be broken in two. Berserker's ability is a perfect counter to Archer's. Even if blocked, it just turns around and homes on the target, and Archer just keeps shooting more of those. We issue warnings if we believe the user means well but we are not obligated to do so. Centuries ago, the Einzbern, Tohsaka, and Matou families created the war in order to obtain the Holy Grail, an omnipotent wish-fulfilling machine. You said it yourself on how he actually defeated Heracles. Taking place 10 years before Fate/stay night, in 1994, it focuses on the Fourth Holy Grail War. However he was able to take him on, wielding the weapons fired by Archer’s Gate of Babylon. Numerous occasions. Two warriors who were driven insane! On broken phantasm, do you forget what's the name of Lancelot's sword? Berserker wins in stats, his power might be considered a direct counter the same way it was to Gilgamesh, and Berserker was stronger than Saber in a 1v1 (Light Novel, not so much in the anime) which puts him above Archer if we want to power scale. Inspired designs on t-shirts, posters, stickers, home decor, and more by independent artists and designers from around the world. Explicit permission, from the aforementioned creator, is required to utilize or alter the content found on this page. Remember, the mods are humans, and we realize you're human, too. It is known that Lancelot has sword skill on par with Saber, and if Saber can parry projectiles, so can Lancelot. Are you freaking kidding me? Actually, a few weapons have been rained down on him From a single direction by a non serious Gilgamesh. But here's the thing. RELATED: Fate: 5 Servants Saber Can Defeat (& 5 She Can't) Of course, if this were Gilgamesh at the time of Fate/Zero, things might be different, as he wore his armor for every one of his fights. Archer had to either slash him or shoot him with arrows in order to take a life. Berserker is no where near weak. When Archer was ordered to retreat, Berserker quickly attacked Saber (Altria) with Kariya unable to … 33 comments. Lancelot would take two lives (since he probably cannot take more) much easier, than Archer did. [–]upads 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago* (10 children). ュ, Girugamesshu), also known as Archer (アーチャー, Āchā), is the Archer-class Servant of Tokiomi Tohsaka in the Fourth Holy Grail War of Fate/Zero. Meliodas (Seven Deadly Sins)Saber, Lancer and Archer (Fate Series)Meliodas one of the seven deadly sins is after the three servants and wants them dea He also fought Lancer, someone who's faster and more skilled than Lancelot. 1 Description 2 Interlude 3 Vergil 4 Berserker 5 DEATH BATTLE 6 Conclusion Devil May Cry VS Fate/Zero! Download for free on all your devices - Computer, Smartphone, or Tablet. Berserker is the Berserker-class Servant of Kariya Matou during the Fourth Holy Grail War of Fate/Zero. The two projectiles we have seen Archer use Caladbolg and Hrunting would both murder him. Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 Next > PakiSama. Not to mention that with it Archer has 5 shots, each faster and stronger than the last one. Do not be insulting or derogatory towards others under any circumstances, and don't resort to ad hominem attacks. DEATH BATTLE featuring Vergil from the Video Game Series Devil May Cry and Berserker (Lancelot) from the Light Novel Series Fate/Zero. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 2.1 Noble Phantasms 2.2 Class Skills 2.3 Personal Skills 3 Others Berserker is the Berserker-class Servant of Kariya Matou during the Fourth Holy Grail War. and join one of thousands of communities. This page contains information about Atalanta in Fate/Another V 1.2O. And actually Shirou beats Gilgamesh because the latter is not even remotely serious, heck he fought him in melee combat without his armor. Here are the battle conditions: If Archer isn't smart Berserker would win imo. [–]upads 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago* (12 children). It's also an attack that expects a block/counter, because if the enemy does that they are cut down on the spot. Not to mention that with it Archer has 5 shots, each faster and stronger than the last one. [–]upads 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (6 children). A fight between Servants is something that can barely be followed with the eyes, more like glimpses than actually 'watching' the fight occur. [–]Fehafare 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (5 children). 20. Berserker takes this because he's a hard counter to archer and has better stats. So that leaves us with the Assassin, Berserker, Caster, Lancer and Rider servants. Lancelot, Class Name Berserker(バーサーカー, Bāsākā?) D&D Beyond Shinji would have had a higher chance of survival against Lancer than Archer against Berserker. And how exactly does Lancelot have a hard counter for Archer's projection? Posted by. The fight for the Holy Grail is on! Berserker is a major antagonist in Fate/Zero. Not going to address any points are you? Actually, there's quite a few reasons why that is wrong. And later Shirou, using only a fraction of Archer's power and Archer's skill and knowledge beats Heracles Alter and aber Alter (arguably stronger than regular Saber) in one on one fights. Send us a message we'd love to help you with your thread. [–]upads 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (8 children). The Archer > Gilgamesh > Berserker > Archer is a vicious cycle of counter. [–]Karakkan 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (4 children). 44 Berserker (Fate/Zero) HD Wallpapers and Background Images. Show us a match where Archer is able to beat Saber in the original works. He is the Servant of Kariya Matou during the 4th Holy Grail War of Fate/Zero. Unsure of a good way to make your fight more interesting than just "X Character vs. Y Character"? It may not display this or other websites correctly. - Wallpaper Abyss ... Archer Artoria Pendragon Assassin Berserker Berserker Caster Cu Chulainn Fate Fate/Stay Night Gilgamesh Lancer Medea Rider Saber. Archer (Fate/Stay Night) vs Berserker (Fate/Zero) Standard Bout. The UBW adaptation does a much better job with it, as can be seen in the initial Archer/Lancer and Saber/Lancer fights, but even then that's slower than how its depicted in the VN/LN. All orders are custom made and most ship worldwide within 24 hours. We encourage the upvoting of all relevant content and have a wide definition of what's acceptable. To put it in perspective. Saber actually needed a command spell boost to deal with that. I didn't just remember, I personally dived into the novel and visual novel to find out the exact data. Crane Wing is a strategy of how to use the twin swords(DEEN fucked it up real bad), it involves tracing three pairs of twin swords ahead of time---more weapons for Lancelot, eh? Archer can use Broken Phantasm to raise the rank up by one and go kaboom on Berserker, it will only work once. Oh, yes, blad. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 13237 on r2-app-0aba91be8faa51828 at 2020-12-28 18:36:32.153086+00:00 running 6abf2be country code: CZ. Archer when not going out a 100% killed Heracles 6 times. No Archer can't keep up with Berserker in a sword fight, Berserker was able to fight Saber on equal terms. Fate/Zero was actually pretty bad in terms of showcasing the difference in scale between how humans/Magus fight and how Servants fight. [–]Karakkan 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children). By the way, there is absolutely no proof nor reason for Archer to not go all out against Hercelus. Hell, a weakened Saber took out Archer in the original Fate route on the very first day! Don't really know what more you want than that. My point was if he can kill Heracles six times than Lancelot is a snowflake trying to survive in hell. He's not weak, as in weak weak. Caladbolg warps space as it travels and not even teleportation can save you. And no, not at all. Lancelot uses Gae Bolg and Archer uses Gae Bolg. But when people say things like "Lol Servants are so slow speedblitzed 10/10 rofl rofl", I kind of sigh and shake up head. Ilya's shock at an unknown hero being able to accomplish such a feat keeps her from acting until morning, and although Berserker believes even Excalibur cannot defeat him, he cautions her that he should still face Saber at full strength. Special skills like Nine Lives and NP use can also be performed. But Archer is wielding that weapon like Cu Chuliann himself. 1 Innates 1.1 Crossing Arcadia 2 Archer Skills 2.1 Double Shot 2.2 TheSeven Arrowsof the Big Dipper 2.3 Agrius Metamorphose 2.4 Phoebus Catastrophe 3 Berserker Skills 3.1 Agrius Metamorphose Release 3.2 Scratch 3.3 Disputes Trophy 3.4 Agrius Metamorphose(Berserker) 3.5 Punishment's Beast 4 Attributes 4.1 Art of the Hunt … But Archer is wielding that weapon like Cu Chuliann himself. Second point. Archer (Fate/Stay Night) vs Berserker (Fate/Zero) Standard Bout. What the fuck was this? (Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Zero strictly, no spin offs), [–]Fehafare 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (7 children). If you do not properly flair your post, or reply incorrectly to a post because you didn't know the difference between 'Battle' and 'Scan-Battle', you agree to forfeit to us your soul in perpetuity or another soul of equal or greater value. Well, if its inside UBW berserker would almost certainly win, being able to pick up and effectively use pretty much any of the nps inside the reality marble, although I recall in the f/z light novel that berserker isn't able to deal with 32 simultaneous GoB nps being launched at him, so Archer could potentially win if he does that (although its debatable as his nps are slightly downgraded). Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. Any posts that do not promote evidence-based debate. Until his identity was revealed, he was known simply as the Black Knight. The Meta VS Berserker Lancelot is the 5th battle of the 5th season of ShadowKaras' One Minute Melees.